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Feeling Forgotten? How to Jog ATC's Memory

By Doug Stewart / Published: Apr 14, 2010
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There will be times in your IFR flying (or VFR with flight following) when you're expecting some love from your controller, but you wind up feeling like a neglected child. Sometimes the frequency is busy; sometimes the controller is on another frequency or the land line setting up a handoff. Either way, you want to call attention to yourself, but you don't want to waste frequency bandwidth unnecessarily. Former Instructor of the Year Doug Stewart, chairman of the Society of Aviation and Flight Educators (SAFE) has some sage advice on how to get the controller's attention when you may or may not have slipped through the cracks. He suggests a simple ident on your transponder. The result on the controller's screen will be attention getting enough, without requiring a verbal exchange.

Stewart suggested some situations when you might want to use this strategy:

• You're approaching the final approach fix on an approach, but the approach controller has not yet turned you over to the tower.

• You have requested a lower altitude, the controller has advised you to expect it in eight miles — but that was 11 miles back.

• You're about to fly through the localizer or the final approach course on a non-precision approach.

• You are past a point where you know from experience there is a sector change, but you've not heard your number called.

• You're practicing approaches at an airport on the edge of two ATC sectors and the frequency gets very quiet as you motor on and on and on in the opposite direction of where you need to go for the approach.

If you've been flying for a while, you can probably come up with some of your own scenarios where a polite touch of the 'Ident' button will get you back into the swing of things. In a way, it's the pilot's equivalent of that controller 'code' — "Bonanza 3473B (whoever that is) altimeter 29.86."

"Roger, approach. Correcting."

Doug Stewart is a MCFI, DPE and 2004 National CFI of the Year. He is the Chairman of the Society of Aviation and Flight Educators (SAFE). He operates DSFI, Inc, (www.dsflight.com) out of the Columbia County Airport in Hudson, NY where he provides instrument, tailwheel and sport pilot instruction.

Clarification: As several readers point out in their comments on this ‘Tip of the Week,’ 40-1-20 of the Aeronautical Information Manual reads: “Activate the ‘IDENT’ feature only upon request of the ATC controller.” However, Stewart maintains there are extenuating circumstances: First, he does NOT suggest that pilots use the IDENT function indiscriminately, as some commenters project, but rather as a backup measure should the frequency be saturated and transmitting a voice call is not possible; or if the controller is not responding to voice calls. Even then, using the IDENT function requires judgment, such as when an expected turn, altitude change or other critical ATC direction is dangerously overdue, based on previous conversation with the controller -- and a voice call is not possible. Stewart also points out that the AIM is "not regulatory in nature," though willfully deviating from its recommendations without good cause could be grounds for an FAA enforcement action based on the catchall “unsafe operation.” And finally, while some critics of using the IDENT in this fashion are experienced controllers, Stewart has discussed this issue with several other senior controllers who have endorsed the strategy – again, as long as it is done in a prudent manner under appropriate circumstances. – Mark Phelps, eNewsletter Editor

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jwswingle's picture

NO no no. Simply be direct and professional and ask for what was forgotten, with no rancor, for it may NOT have been forgotten, just delayed for traffic issues or because coordination that day with adjacent facilities is non-standard. An ident for no apparent reason is just a distraction, not a help. We all know that trying to imply something in conversations with our loved ones often fails to make the point-just say what you mean. It is that simple.

Unexpected idents are the equivalent to ATC of a "click-click" mike response when spoken to-useless. Just respond to requests with proper phraseology and your call sign, even properly abbreviated (preferable when we are busy). The rules for read-backs have changed, so we need call signs on ALL transmissions, and READ-BACKS w/call signs for ALL hold short instructions and ALL altitude assignments(see current AIM and 7110.65T). The lawyers consider an answer without a call sign as an incomplete communication, and makes the controller a contributing factor if things go south because they did not insist on the required read-back(and thus can't prove complete communication/understanding).
Oh-and ATC comm tapes are currently stored for 45 days, not the old 15 days of yore, so transgressions on either part now can be found for a month and a half post-facto.

Jon
28 year ATC veteran

verygrey's picture

Got to go with Jon on this one. Not really the purpose of the ident feature. A short query seems more appropriate.

mcasiano's picture

I agree with Jon; I don't like the 'ident' idea at all. If you've got doubts, just ask, clearly and concisely.
Pressing ident conveys no useful information. And the absence of a controller response after pressing an unrequested ident conveys even less information. Assuming you know what the controller is thinking is a trap to be avoided. And it is avoided easily - just speak up and ask a question and get an answer: "Approach, 23G, do you want me crossing thru the localizer?", or "Center, 23G, you still there? Seems awful quiet", or "Center, 23G, should I still be on your frequency?", or "Tower, 23G, confirm cleared to cross runway 12."
In many years of flying in the IFR system, I have never had a controller get upset by a concise question; far from it, they are usually happy for the reminder, or happy to explain why they're doing what they're doing.
Stick with unambiguous communication, rather than a vague jab in the ribs.

sun450's picture

What has always worked for me is to ask the controller for a ground speed read out, you will get a answer real quick and in the process jog the controller memory , also lets the controller know you are keeping up with your flight plan.

BradSavage's picture

The AIM specifically speaks against the practice of using the IDENT feature whenever you wish, as you should consider before broadcasting this advice to pilots. Under the heading of "Transponder IDENT Feature", the AIM says: "The transponder shall be operated only as specified by ATC. Activate the 'IDENT' feature only upon request of the ATC controller."

atco1962's picture

I would suggest that Mr Stewart rethink his tip and do his homework on this one. The ident feature is simply that, a tool that a controller uses to identify traffic. If pilots blithely hit the ident button on a whim, it could potentially lead to misidentification of an aircraft with a subsequent loss of separation. Shame on you, Flight, for not even having some kind of checking process in place to ensure such a "tip" doesn't make it into the public domain.

atco1962 (29 years of atc experience)

Anonymous's picture

None of the commenters seem to appreciate that the freq might be too congested to submit a verbal query!

jwswingle's picture

Thanks to all for your thoughtful agreement. The AIM reference says it all. atco1962 is also dead on-I have multiple occasions a year, just in the VFR environment, when random idents occur that mislead me when I am trying to determine who is whom. Clear, concise, precise, per the book language is what I teach all my ATC students, and what I preach a couple of times a year at pilot briefings. Trying to "help" a controller know you have a concern via an ident hint just confuses the process and delays a resolution. Ask for what you need, whether the human controller is just behind the curve or deliberately delaying the instruction, direct requests just work best. We live and work to serve you, help us do it better!

Jon
28 year ATC veteran

Skywriter's picture

It would seem that most of these comments ignore the point that the suggestion only applies wheb the is too much congestion on the freq to ask a verbal query. Some of the responders suggest some longer winded questions than the situation would allow. I would think that rather than trying to squeeze in a call (and chance a blocked instruction)it would be better to simply raise your hand!

Warren Webb Jr's picture

I have been flying for nearly 35 years including operations to Miami Int'l, Washington Reagan (before 9/11), all major New York City airports, Boston Logan, and many other destinations around the country. I completely disagree with this suggestion of using the ident feature to get the controller's attention when the pilot is 'feeling forgotten'. If this became a common practice, then we would have to deal with each individual pilot's definition of 'feeling forgotten'. The radar screen would start looking like a Christmas tree with twinkling lights. The unique benefit of the ident under the direction of the controller would be lost. I am disappointed that Flying Magazine published this tip.

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