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What If the CFI Forgets to Sign Your Logbook?

Flight experiences need to be documented but not necessarily in the pilot logbook.

Flight experiences need to be documented but not necessarily in the pilot logbook, according to a designated pilot examiner. [Credit: iStock]
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Key Takeaways:

  • A student pilot needs 5.7 hours of cross-country flight time properly logged and signed by their previous instructor for an upcoming private pilot check ride, but the instructor's entries are incomplete and unsigned.
  • The previous instructor is two states away and demands payment for travel to sign the logbook, which the student cannot afford.
  • According to a Designated Pilot Examiner (DPE) and FSIMS, flight experience doesn't solely need to be in a pilot logbook but can be in any "training record or other reliable records."
  • The recommended solution is for the previous CFI to write, sign, and send a digital image of the missing logbook entries, which the student can then add to their records, after confirming its acceptability with their current DPE.
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I am a student pilot about to take my private pilot check ride. I moved about three-fourths of the way through my training, so I will be doing my check ride in a different state from where I did most of my training. 

While going through my logbook with the check airman, we noticed that I have four lines unfilled and unsigned that were lessons done with my first CFI, who is now two states away. The flights were dual cross-country flights and total 5.7 hours. The places we landed at and the length of the flights were written down, but the entries lack the details and the CFI’s signature and certificate number. Therefore, they don’t count.

I called my previous CFI and told him he’d forgotten to sign—he works at a really busy flight school, so he was always in a hurry. He said he’d if I paid for the ticket, he would fly up to Seattle to fill out my logbook so I don’t lose those 5.7 hours of cross-country experience. I can’t afford to do that and pay for my check ride. Is there a less expensive alternative?

Answer: For this one, we reached out  to our designated pilot examiner (DPE) on staff, Jason Blair. He let us know that the flight experience has to be logged but not necessarily in the pilot logbook. 

“It just has to be in a ‘training record’ of some sort,” Blair said.

Meg Godlewski

Meg Godlewski has been an aviation journalist for more than 24 years and a CFI for more than 20 years. If she is not flying or teaching aviation, she is writing about it. Meg is a founding member of the Pilot Proficiency Center at EAA AirVenture and excels at the application of simulation technology to flatten the learning curve. Follow Meg on Twitter @2Lewski.

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