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Sun 'n Fun Tornado Bills Stir Anger

By Stephen Pope / Published: Nov 03, 2011
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Some aircraft owners who already suffered
large financial damages during the Sun 'n
Fun tornado are being hit again, this time
by the airshow itself as it tries to recoup its
own losses from the storm.

Tempers are flaring after organizers of the Sun ‘n Fun show in Lakeland, Florida, recently sent invoices to 25 aircraft owners demanding they cover the costs associated with the clean up of airplanes damaged by a tornado that ripped through the fly-in grounds last March 31.

Sun ‘n Fun spokesman Jim Bernegger told Flying the organization has sent bills totaling $90,000 to aircraft owners and exhibitors to recoup costs not covered by Sun n’ Fun’s own insurance. Of those, three individuals have responded so far, with two submitting claims to their insurance companies and a third disputing the invoiced amount, Bernegger said. He added that Sun ‘n Fun could be out of pocket more than $200,000 for insurance deductibles and other tornado-related damages not covered by its insurance.

One aircraft owner whose RV-6 was damaged during the storm said he received a bill from show organizers for $2,568.33 for the cost of an environmental cleanup company to remove his airplane from the show grounds in time for Sun ‘n Fun to reopen the next morning. He complained that he wasn’t allowed to recover his aircraft on his own and called the charge excessive. “I had made arrangements to move the wreck of my airplane to a friend's hangar on the field the next morning,” the RV-6 owner wrote on the vansairforce.net message board. “When I got to the airport, my airplane was gone. None of this was done with my permission. I could have moved the airplane at zero cost.”

Bernegger said he understands the frustration some aircraft owners feel over the situation, but stressed that the organization had no choice but to hire an environmental specialist to clean up the site. “We were operating a quasi-disaster area after the tornado,” he said. “Just like individuals aren’t allowed to recover their own cars after a serious crash on the highway, we could not allow individuals to come in and remove aircraft on their own.”

The main motivation for the quick cleanup, he said, was to allow Sun n’ Fun to reopen the next morning. “The show is the main source of revenue for this non-profit organization,” he said.

Sun 'n Fun exhibitor AirCam said it was surprised to receive a bill for $1,304.35 for the cleanup costs of its airplanes. AirCam president George Weber said that immediately after the tornado, the company informed Sun ‘n Fun organizers that the company would handle its own cleanup. He said 15 workers were recruited to remove damaged AirCams from its exhibit area and that at no time did any environmental company hired by Sun 'n Fun assist. “I called and raised hell but have not heard from [Sun ‘n Fun officials] since,” Weber said.

Aviation Internet message boards have been buzzing with discussion about the invoices, with many criticizing the show for levying excessive charges and putting profits first. “I get the feeling that some local environmental cleanup company made out pretty well at the expense of several insurance companies and/or airplane owners,” wrote a member on the vansairforce.net forum.

Asked how Sun ‘n Fun would respond to aircraft owners who refuse to pay the bills, Bernegger said those situations will be dealt with on a “case-by-case basis.”

View the aircraft damaged by the storm here.

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dusterlou's picture

First the Sun N Fun people severed EAA, now they are gouging the very people that make the event possible--Its dying--they are not "our peeps"--they are all about money....that is clear.
Real enthusiasts will come together and launch an alternative to SNF. Just a matter of time.
Goodby

flexwing75's picture

"The show is the main source of revenue for this non-profit organization." Duh. Bernegger had the opportunity to be a hero, but chose to be a bean counter. Without those pilots & their planes, THERE IS NO SHOW. The Sun-n-Fun tornado was a tradgedy. Losing a homebuilt airplane is like losing a photo album or even a family member. Yes, there is a cost to repair the facility AND a cost to repair those planes. We can come together & make everyone whole. We are not the Auto industry. We are not the Banking industry. We are Aviation. We have always watched out for ourselves by watching out for each other. There's a way to make this right.

chuckly's picture

The leadership at Sun-n-Fun has been losing me bit by bit over the last few years. This indicates that they have completely lost touch with the grass roots pilots. Goodbye.

Augusta Wind's picture

I'm done. I live 1 hour away from SNF and have enjoyed the event both as a pilot and exhibitor. The continued increase in exhibit costs, parking, admission, food and beverage ($9.00 for a brawt?) have had me thinking perhaps I should consider forgoing SNF 2012.

The attitude and greed of the bozos who run the show has become worse over the years. Now they are invoicing for site cleanup after an act of God! Board Chairman and former SUN ’n FUN President John Burton, SUN ’n FUN Fly-In Board Chairman and FAM Board member Bill Eickhoff, and newly appointed Sun 'n Fun President John R. Leenhouts should be ashamed!

Visit the Board of Director's on the Sun 'n Fun website. Reminds me of a photo directory at a senior citizen home with only two or three exceptions. Perhaps it is time for some young (under 60 years of age) blood to step in and take the flight controls.

http://www.sun-n-fun.org/YearRound/Board-of-Directors/SUN--n-FUN-Board.aspx

I will NEVER step foot on any Sun 'n Fun sanctioned event.

SocalFlyer's picture

Well, let's think about this. I personally have had an aircraft destroyed by a wind, my insurance company took care of the cleanup & removal. Had I not had insurance, it would have been my nickle, not the responsibility of the owners of the airstrip where it happened.

While at first glance this all seems crass & distasteful I believe it is, as the saying goes, "just business". Sun-N-Fun's insurance carrier quite naturally wants to avoid paying for anything that is rightfully someone else's responsibility, as does Sun-N-Fun itself.

Doubtless there will some disputes and adjustments needed due to the confusion inherent in a rush process involving dozens of entities, but I think it is off base to ding Sun-N-Fun for being fiscally businesslike.

sdlmd's picture

So the SnF capomafiosi elected to pay to move damaged airplanes so they could resume making money, rather than let the owners move them a couple of hours later at no cost. Fine, it was their business decision, to enhance their profits. For them to turn around and bill the owners is an outrage.

I live closer to Lakeland than to Oshkosh, but I'll just keep going to Oshkosh. To hell with Sun n Fun! It used to be a great show, and a great gathering, but I'm through with it.

elmog's picture

I guess the show will go on, but it will be more expensive next year. Probably charge about $11 for a Hot Dog and $7 for a beer. I'd rather go to Chino, eat at Flo's and then visit the museum or just hang around and watch the airplanes take-off and land. I'm tired of getting scalped every time I go to an airshow.

veryhrm's picture

I'm relieved to hear that they used an "environmental cleanup company". Being airplane enthusiaists, SnF organizers knew that airplanes are made primarily out of plutonium, asbestos and anthrax and jumped into action to protect our fragile environment. kudos!

gregory fisher's picture

Sun N Fun has been a scam for many years. Why is anyone surprised at their actions. Why do you think EAA booted there butts out of their umbrella years ago.....Wake up pilots and stop supporting these clowns. Visit EAA in Oshkosh instead....

ynot151's picture

What if they gave a air show and nobody came?

Barry97F's picture

I don't get the anger.

If my airplane were tossed about by weather, I would fully expect my own insurance company to cover reasonable and customary costs of the cleanup. This is regardless of the location of the incident.

A damaged aircraft often leaks tens of gallons of fuel, as well as a good amount of oil and other fluids. I would also expect proper cleanup of the mess made by MY AIRPLANE to include proper site remediation.

It's not like the organizers of the event caused the weather or failed to do what they could to prevent an incident.

Jerry N. Cadle's picture

I called Jim Bernagger early this morning and left him a voice mail. He returned my call within thirty minutes. There are two sides to this story. The tornado was a tradegy for everyone, including Sun N Fun. We all have insurance to cover these kinds of losses. It would be reasonable for an aircraft owner's insurance to cover the clean up cost the same as an auto insurance company covers the cost of removal of vehicles and clean up after an auto accident. In this day and time aviation needs our support and especially the support of publications whose mission is to promote aviation.

moakley's picture

I've been an EAA member, continously since the mid 70's. The flyins and airshows are great, but don't think, for one minute, it isn't all the about money. It was that way when I joined and has grown in this regard, ever since.

Odds are if you started a brand new sport / homebuilder movement, it would turn out the same way.

OSH makes enough money, the EAA could simply "suck up" and cover these costs. It was an "act of GOD" at their event.

gdskoog's picture

Barry97F, Well, here you are-- injecting reasoned, well thought-out situational awareness into a comment thread that clearly does not call for it. Well said, sir!!

mtnpilot's picture

For Sun & Fun it's not all about the money. It's how much!
The money focus has been a growing trend each year at Sun & Fun.
I don't mind paying up for making the show go on but the attitude there just sucks compared to OSH! Myself and other Skywagon club owners attended Sun & Fun each year faithfully for years until they pulled our group parking. I know few who have been back since and I have no plans to return. I've flown into OSH every year since '97 and will continue to do so. If another aviation group will host fly-n's in the early spring down in Florida me and my Skywagon buddies are there! Perhaps EAA will start competing with Sun & Fun!? Hope so.

QuarlI's picture

OK I live in tornado country (Oklahoma) and carry my laptop with me wherever I go to monitor weather. Sun-&-Fun officials should have been professional enough to understand inclement weather. We have a system here in Oklahoma called OKFirst (you can Google but cannot sign in till you have several hours of classes by Norman weather service.) It provides me and my flying team with accurate weather no matter where we are. We can't stop tornados or severe wind but we can take precautions when we know it's moving in.

This is 2011 they should have hired a weather expert to track weather 24/7 while that event was on-going. I have gone back and pulled the charts on that day and they had plenty of warning that inclement weather was incoming. They had more than enough time to adequately warn the pilots that their crafts were in danger.

As for the insurance that is the reason we pay for it…events and incidents will always occur and we have to be covered. I want to stress that I blame both the pilots and the Air officials for not doing a better job of tracking the weather.

CYOTE5's picture

While I agree with virtually all of the comments regarding the abysmal handling of this situation, everyone seems to be unintentionally touching on the same issue: the fact that GA is no longer something that average people can afford.

Augusta Wind points out that , if one looks at SnF's board of directors, it has the appearance of a "senior citizen's home". Have you looked around your local airport lately? Old, retired men who learned to fly in their youth or when the service didn't have so many restrictions on their aviators and hot-shot bankers are almost all that is left who can afford to participate in GA anymore. The costs of training and ownership are ridiculous...even the cost of attending airshows rivals those of taking a family to an NFL game.

Long and short, these people assume that, if you can afford an aircraft, you can afford their cleanup bill...likely because they are able to afford it.

Windsock's picture

I've attended SNF for 25 years in a row... We've driven down only three times during this period, and thank goodness last year was one of them.. I've noticed changes the last few years at my be-loved annual 'Mecca' . It seems to be more about filling the annual coffers than about grass roots flying and friends.. We've always camp in the GAC area and have had many great times there.. A few years back, someone had placed a very bright strobe light at the west end of runway 9 that was very distracting to aircraft campers at night. You could not even look towards the runway at night without getting blinded by the intense strobe light. Some asked if the light could be turned off ? I suggested at least placing a temporary 'blind' in front of it that would still allow it to be visible from the air ? An LAL official came out and said that it was required by the FAA.. I replied that it has never been there before and she responded by saying that "if I had my way, we would all be across (west side) the perimeter road and not this close to the runway anyway... I was speechless ? Recently I had the occasion to ride through the SNF campus while in Lakeland on business.. I was shocked to find that a 10' high chain link fence now surrounding the airport.. Even the campground road that runs parallel to taxiway 'Papa' has this fence running right down the middle of it... That's going to make it very hard to take pictures of arrivals / departures in the future.. I'll bet that the 'front row' camping area will no longer exist either !! Should the GAC area move one more inch, I'll not return. I don't know if sun-n-fun has outgrown Lakeland, or if Lakeland has outgrown Sun-n-fun ? Either way it seems that it's time move the unofficial EAA spring fling event elsewhere.. Evidently the Mayor and merchants of Lakeland won't miss us !!

DonewithSNF's picture

My wife and I first attended SNF 25 years ago and loved the grass roots aviation feeling. We camped out and felt right at home with the people and planes. As the years progressed, it seemed like big business moved in and prices went "sky high"! This past year was my last. We arrived early while it was still dark to see the baloon launch. There were no lack of people at the entrance to the parking lot to grab my money just to park, but not one of them took the time to let me know the parking lot was just a big mud hole with numerous vehicles getting stuck. As I tried to negotiate my way through the dark parking lot mud, I too got stuck with my family in the car. After trying to rock my car free for almost 30 minutes, several good samaritians pushed me out. Food prices are extreme and quality is generally poor. I love flying and planes, but this is robbery. I will spend my money elsewhere.

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