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Re: When ATC Screws Up

I guess Im a dodo, but I use roger all the time. And I hear it all the time from ATC. The term is in the Pilot/Controller Glossary (November 2016 edition): ROGER-I have received all of your last transmission. It should not be used to answer a question requiring a yes or a no answer. Buffalo Airways still flies a DC-4 so maybe the articles statement is predicting roger will go out sometime in the future?

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Key Takeaways:

  • The use of "Roger" in ATC communications is debated; while included in the Pilot/Controller Glossary, the editor advises against it as it signifies receipt but not necessarily understanding or verification, unlike a readback.
  • The FAA utilizes a risk-based approach for obstacle clearance in instrument approaches, with different obstacle clearance surfaces (e.g., 34:1, 20:1) dictating minimum visibility requirements, and higher risk obstacles needing lighting.
  • A reader criticizes a previous series on energy management for overcomplicating concepts with mathematical explanations, advocating for simpler, practical advice for general aviation pilots.
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I just read “When ATC Screws Up” in the February issue—a good article and good advice. Just one minor nit though: While non-standard phraseology is bad, “Roger” is fine. Check the pilot-controller glossary in the AIM for example.

Karol Zadora
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What am I missing? I read Mr. Burnside’s comment under the sidebar “‘Roger’ went out with the DC-4.”

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