In fact, Doug Stewart, SAFE chairman, in a recent interview said that, "although the high dropout rate is a serious problem and an indication that we're failing to keep people involved in aviation, another important factor that has to be addressed is the accident rate. For more than a decade, the accident rate has been 'flat-lined,' and that doesn't do anything to encourage people to stay in training or to begin training in the first place. The industry," he explained, "is in a spiral dive, not a spin. In a spin you're in a stall, but in a spiral dive the rate of descent is accelerating. It's going to take the entire general aviation community to work together to pull general aviation out of this spiral dive."