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Commuter Flight Lands at Wrong Airport
from Warren Webb Jr
wrote 40 weeks 1 day ago
Unfortunately event. Just a small detail - these airports are 9.5nm apart.
Commuter Flight Lands at Wrong Airport
from Warren Webb Jr
wrote 40 weeks 1 day ago
I pointed out the error in mileage between the airports because if the distance had been less than 5 miles as noted in the article, the pilots would probably have been in a totally different environment. I.e. if landing to the north, the flight would be nearly above both airports at the same moment. But if landing to the south and being vectored to final, the small airport would have been maybe five miles ahead, and the larger airport about 15. Both airports have NE/SW runways, and the smaller airport is NE of the larger. According to weather underground, the winds last Tue evening would seem to have favored a landing on runway 21 at North Central, so if the flight had been vectored on a long final to runway 21 at North Central, it could have been positioned on an approximate 5 mile final to runway 23 at Fairmont. The runway at Fairmont sort of points to the runway at North Central.
I'm not excusing the pilots, but I'm also not necessarily blaming them 100%. Controllers are our partners in achieving a safe flight and they are supposed to monitor a few things too. Because of the minimal information in the article, we just don't know what was going on between the pilot and controllers. But these things do happen at all levels - note the Delta jet that landed inadvertently at MacDill Air Force base June 1980 instead of Tampa International.
Thankfully no one was injured in this incident. As far as I'm concerned, this is a lesson we need to study not just in how pilots should perform, but in how pilots and controllers perform together. Usually one catches the mistakes of the other, but not always and we need to remember that. You know the pilots will review their procedures. I am wondering about the other side too - was there some sort of insidious sequence that lead to this incident which if we understand, we can use to establish better procedures in and out of the cockpit.
Stephen Pope - will you be adding additional information as it is developed? Thanks.
Get Into Position
from Warren Webb Jr
wrote 26 weeks 3 days ago
Excellent tip by Pia. Years ago I got involved in instructing in a new airplane which had front seats with a seat design which elevated me up to the position Pia is describing. I didn't think about it too much until I started landings. I quickly realized that I had much better visual contact with the runway. I then starting using cushions in everything else I flew to get the same consistent position - what a difference. All of my students agree. I think of it as getting my eyes about three inches above the glareshield in a Skyhawk or equivalent position in other models where I will have a line of sight that is out and slightly down, just as the FAA handbook suggests. Some aircraft have an engine cowling that slopes down so much that it isn't a factor. But it doesn't matter - the better visual contact with the runway it what counts the most in my opinion.
Practice Diversions
from Warren Webb Jr
wrote 20 weeks 1 day ago
I meant to include that all of the temporary conditions mentioned in my comment yesterday 12/27/12 were included in notams. The FBO closure and unavailability of fuel are still current notams: IJD 07/004 IJD SVC FBO CLSD IJD 05/003 IJD SVC FUEL NOT AVBL. So a quick call via remote communications outlet to flight service for notams is just as important for a diversion as it is for general flight planning.
Practice Diversions
from Warren Webb Jr
wrote 20 weeks 1 day ago
The advice above is fine, but nothing is mentioned about getting notams for the diversion airport which Pia said is one probably not previously studied. Just from where I am based, an airport ten miles to the west was recently closed for two months for a resurface of its only runway. And an airport twenty east had one of its runways closed for a short period, and still has the FBO closed and no fuel available. Now imagine you have that flight where unfortunately you do have to divert and you decide to go to one of the airports I just described and there isn't another airport very close. Are you going to be stuck with not enough fuel to get to another place? Are you going to have a crosswind problem with the only available runway? Are you going to get a big surprise with parked equipment blocking a taxiway (that was one of the problems with the second airport I mentioned)? Is the FBO closure going to leave you stranded in some way? Are you going to waste critical time in getting medical attention?
Usually, it is possible to contact Flight Service right at the point of diversion via a remote communications outlet to get notams and avoid a diversion in the wrong direction. And you can get an update on TFR's at the same time.
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