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'No Drone Zone' in Virginia?

By Mark Phelps / Published: Feb 07, 2013
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As the rise of pilotless drones in U.S. airspace becomes more prevalent, some local and state governments are adopting measures to curtail their use. On Monday, the Charlottesville, Virginia, city council became the latest to do so, voting 3-2 in favor of a resolution that “calls on the United States Congress and the General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Virginia to adopt legislation prohibiting information obtained from the domestic use of drones from being introduced into a federal or state court.”
 
“If we don’t get out ahead of [the privacy issue] to establish some guidelines for how drones are used, they will be used in a very invasive way and we’ll be left to try and pick up the pieces,” said Dede Smith, a city councilmember in Charlottesville. 
 
The resolution also, “…pledges to abstain from similar uses with city-owned, leased or borrowed drones.” The resolution was brought before the council by privacy activist David Swanson and the Charlottesville-based Rutherford Institute, a civil liberties advocacy group. Its initial proposal was more draconian, calling for a ban on all drones over city airspace — including banning municipal agencies (police, fire and rescue) agencies from leasing, borrowing or testing drones.
 
The city acknowledges that its resolution has little concrete effect in and of itself, since the FAA reauthorization legislation mandates promoting the integration of drones into U.S. airspace. But Councilmember Smith said, “Although [resolutions such as this one] don’t have a lot of teeth to them, they can inspire other governments to pass similar measures… One doesn’t do much, but a thousand of them might.”
 
The Charlottesville resolution brings even more attention to a government white paper leaked to NBC News outlining the ethics of using drones to strike U.S. citizens believed to be leaders of terrorist groups. The paper has generated controversy surrounding today’s nomination hearings for proposed CIA director John Brennan. 
 
Meanwhile, lawmakers in at least 10 other states are proposing various restrictions on the use of drones in their skies amid concerns unmanned aerial vehicles could be exploited by local authorities to spy on Americans.

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rwc's picture

Is it just me, or is the "More from flying" section at the bottom of the page feeling a bit like a tabloid with all the sensational headlines on crashes and killings?

ChampPilot44's picture

@rwc - You know, this is the first time in 20+ years of being a loyal reader of Flying that I've considered NOT renewing my subscription because of a lot of this tabloid journalism.
Bonnier must think that's what we American pilots want to see and lately Robert Goyer just wants to egg people on. There are still some great writers at Flying but a few of them have left and I can see why. It's just not the same magazine anymore.

Danny Wallace's picture

As the rise of pilotless drones in U.S. airspace becomes more prevalent, some local and state governments are adopting measures to curtail their use.
As I read these headlines, I have to wonder, do these folks even know how these drones work? I think not, especially when you see comments like drones in air to air combat over our back yards, or invading privacy, or the excess noise they’ll cause. It’s so typical for the uninformed or untrained to make these comments and then stir up ill perceptions from the general public who for the most part have no idea what these drones look like. They take the bad info and run with it because that’s all they know. If they had a chance to see the proper operation of the drones, they’d be surprised to find for the most part you never know it’s working in your area unless you just happen to look up and see it. The operation proposed in the use of these drones in US air space is a natural next step in our protection of property and life. We have no reason to fear it being used to spy on anyone other than those involved in nefarious activity. I could go on but my time to interject a comment here is limited. But I would urge those people who really don’t know what drones do to do some real research and get the proper information. There is a place for this technology in our daily lives without fear of it being used improperly and against law abiding citizens.

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To the pro-drone troll:
Well maybe you trust governments and for-profit corporations to "do the right thing" but most of us don't live in that dream world. All of us know what drones can do as machines of war and we have no guarantee that's not the direction they're headed with civilian law enforcement versions.
The fact that they are tiny and silent is even worse. Big brother watching your wife sunbathing in the back yard?

Maybe you think that's over the top and a knee-jerk reaction but ask yourself, has the TSA made your life safer or just invaded your personal space at the airport? Have big corporations and elected officials been looking out for your family or their own?
I'm sure we could be a lot safer if we implanted everyone with a microchip that can be scanned 100 times as you walk down a city block. Wait, that's your cell phone. But yes, we are in fact chipping away at our freedom for the sake of a false sense of security.

I think I'd like to see some serious regulation when it comes to this sort of activity.

"There is a place for this technology in our daily lives without fear of it being used improperly and against law abiding citizens."

People who think drones flying overhead are making them safer are the ones with the fear issues. Same ones that think taking your shoes off and not having a tube of toothpaste at the airport makes us safer.

It's not that we fear drones. It's that we don't trust the entities who are pushing to sell them by the thousands or the agencies that want to use them, who have proven themselves untrustworthy time and again.

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UAVs. Drones. RPAs. What are we really talking about?

The recent PBS Nova program Rise of the Drones shows how US Predator, Reaper and other UAV's have "taken out" numerous terrorist HVTs (high value targets) in Afganistan. Recently we've learned that they've also bee used hundreds of times in Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia, the last three in apparent violation of those nations' sovreignty. This is covert aerial ops on steroids, where after a period of surveillance a decision is made by a commander to launch laser-guided smart weapons at an unsuspecting target, presumeably anywhere on earth. More new pilots are being trained to fly UAVs than advanced fighter jets. In the future UAVs will operate sid-by-side with manned fighter aircraft. This is what we know; imagine what we don't know.

Lack of respect for national sovreignty by the US and other "developed nations" has been around since the first days of the OSS, probably before that. The CSTOL Helio Courier was designed in the 1940s and built in the mid-fifties. It was used by the CIA to covertly insert US spies into the Soviet Union undetected. Many covert actions by CIA and other US intelligence agencies took place in Africa, Iran, the Philipines, South and Central America from the late 1940s, until the unsucessful coup of Cuba during the Eisenhaower and Kennedy administrations became known in the 1970s. Everything from Sci- Ops to crop burning, propaganda to arming rebel armies, up to and including "executive action" were performed covertly. At home the truth was suppressed, or kept from the public's eyes with the help ofambitious American journalists (Known as CIA's Operation Mockingbird).

We know about the V-tailed Predator and its big brother, the Reaper, and the massive Global Hawk. A US stealth-shaped drone was undoubtedly spying along the Iraq-Iran border and somehow was hacked and influenced to land in Iran. (Now the Iranis have their own RPV program). A small drone called a Switchblade is only a couple feet long. It has retractable wings and stabilizers and an explosive warhead tha can take out a rooftop sniper. Without a trial by his peers, of course.

Quadcopter designs with multiple cameras and telemetrycan be used to fly complex patterns in the air and avoid moving obstacles like birds or airplanes. In a few years they'll be able to fly into a school, an airport or a shopping mall and search for the bad guys. The obvious advantage being that fewer cops and firemen will die as a result. Imagine mobile police radar drones, tracking your speed from above, with one officer detaining and writing tickets a few blocks ahead.

For aviators they represent unknown aerial obstacles that may. or may not be right on your flight path. How the integration of these war planes into domestic airspace shakes down is anybody's guess. Whatever you do, don't circle over a nuclear plant in your sailplane, oir get too close to Groom Lake. Hopefully your Cirrus BRA system works after you've been summarily shot out of the sky by someone you'll never getr to learn the identity of, sitting with a buch of screens around him in a trailor at Holloman AFB.

Maybe I'll just take up golf, where the worst thing that can hurt me is someone else's stray shot.

Douglas M

reykjavik's picture

I agree that Flying is increasingly a tabloid about flying. I guess the hope is to increase readership by "broadening the base." Includes getting rid of a lot of good writers.

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