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Another Cirrus Chute Deployment Mystery

By Robert Goyer / Published: Nov 29, 2011
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A Cirrus SR20 crashed near Chicago on Sunday, claiming the life of the pilot, his two daughters and their friend when the airplane went down in a soybean field under as yet unknown circumstances. The pilot, Ray Harris of Marion, is shown on the FAA airman registry database as being a private pilot. No instrument rating is shown, though the database is not always up to date. The weather at the time of the accident was listed by the FAA as 900 feet overcast, which would be below VFR minimums.

Photographs of the accident scene seem to indicate that the whole-airplane recovery parachute system was deployed, but the details of when and under what conditions it was fired remain unknown at this time and might be difficult to discover.

There have been several accidents involving Cirrus airplanes -- all of them are equipped with a recovery parachute -- in which the details behind the deployment of the chute were a mystery, at least at first. A fatal SR22 crash in the Dallas area several weeks ago was marked by what appeared to be a partial deployment; that accident remains under investigation. The Illinois accident airplane was a 2000-model-year SR20, which was outfitted with older avionics, most likely with very limited or nonexistent data logging capabilities. Current airplanes have rich recording capabilities, which typically allow investigators to quickly piece together the details of a mishap.

Strangely enough, a Cirrus SR20 that went down in Lake Pontchartrain, Louisiana, just north of Lakefront Airport, last week was also a 2000 model. In that case, the pilot/sole occupant, radioed ATC about engine troubles a few minutes after takeoff, before deploying the chute. According to local news reports, he survived the incident without injury.

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wesue4u's picture

What's the dang mystery. When a plane breaks up, the wires get pulled every which way.
The chute cable is one of those wires. Does it really surprise you that the chute would actuate upon impact?

elmog's picture

Doesn't seem like the parachutes really help to increase safety in most cases. Just an observation.

north36's picture

My first thought was "Didn't this guy check the weather before he took off?" Weather was absolutely below VFR minimums around here, and has been for several days. After looking at the post crash pictures, which shows that the plane is in many shattered pieces, I thought "this guy lost it in clouds and ended up in a CFIT situation."
Of course, I may be wrong, but....

Mtweiss's picture

My 2004 SR22 was destroyed in the June 1, 2011 tornado that hit Southbridge Massachusetts - along with my hangar. The cockpit was smashed downward by the force of one of the hangar supporting I beams, putting downward force on the rocket cable. I beg to differ about chute deployments and saving lives. The problem is the pilot NOT pulling the chute when required and waiting too long. In most cases, (recent Dallas crash) the pilot knows his engine is running rough, tries to shoot an ILS, blows the ILS and crashes while maneuvering. The stress of trying to perform on instruments, with an engine developing less than normal horsepower, with passengers... Easy to say what should have been done - (level off & pull chute) or what many of us would have done. (try to land plane, avoid insurance claims nightnare and stay off evening news). In retrospect, living and not killing your passengers is always the best choice.

MEII's picture

My opinion is that when a pilot buys a Cirrus aircraft they are lulled into a false sense of security because they have a parachute. My experience has shown me that the training done for the aircraft only instructs these pilots how to push buttons, they need to learn how to make good decisions and how to fly the airplane by hand. This may not be the case for this accident; I’m speaking in general about the Cirrus training. I also think that after a Cirrus aircraft is purchased and the CSIP training is received, the pilot should have to fly with an FAA safety inspector to confirm the pilot’s competency in the aircraft.
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CaptH's picture

I was at the scene shortly after the aircraft went down. It was definitely IFR and raining. Not a day for any sort of VFR flying. It appeared that the CAPS deployed as a result of the crash, and not in an attempt to prevent it. From my perspective, the aircraft appeared to clip a tree and then hit the ground and disintegrated. The canopy was attached to the tree and the harness appeared to be attached to a portion of the wreckage.

What likely unfolded is that the aircraft, coming up from Indiana, flew up the Chicago shoreline where the weather was "OK" and then turned inland north of the city, where the weather rapidly deteriorated, ultimately resulting in loss of aircraft control.

It is sad that four people lost their lives, but it is equally sad that pilots still find the need to press on into bad weather when there really is no need. This is likely caused by the false sense of security pilots have with advanced aircraft.

Pilots and owners of Cirrus aircraft really need additional training in good old fashioned aeronautical decision-making. Far too many of these aircraft are wrecked because of pilots pushing both the limits of the aircraft as well as the limits of their training and experience because they feel that no matter what happens, the aircraft will help get them to safety.

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gklasson's picture

The two ATP MEII posters seem to be jumping to unfortunate conclusions. And their suggestions are at best unwise generalizations. Any loss of life in aviation is a tragedy. But to suggest that this or other Cirrus accidents are statistically significant and substantially different than that of other types of GA accidents misses the mark.

I haven't seen or heard that MEII's should be held to a higher standard when their students go out get in an airplane and run out of gas in their Pipers, Cessnas, Mooneys or Bonanzas. And yet we read about these and other avoidable accidents every year.
Where's the outrage against CFI's, CFII's and MEII's for allowing their students to commit these types of errors costing countless lives? Should these instructors be held to account for faulty training?

Flying any GA aircraft requires good decision making. When pilots do less than their very best in this area they place themselves and others lives' in grave danger. In many, if not most GA accidents the pilot is found to be at fault. Many of these accidents cost countless lives. But last time I read the NTSB reports… Cirrus aircraft are no more and no less likely to have bad accidents caused by bad pilot judgment.

As the owner of a SR22 I can attest to the fact that I treat every flight as though my and my passenger's lives' depend on my making the right decisions. Starting with the very first – GO/NO GO. And I believe that most pilots realize and function with this always foremost in their thoughts.

For those who do not… whether they fly Cirrus, Mooney, Bonanza, Piper, Cessna …the consequences are evident each year in the accident reports.

My experience has been that Cirrus as a company and the Cirrus owner's community (COPA) and the CSIP instructors do a great service in always placing safety first.

ChampPilot44's picture

Looks like the Cirrus Mafia is trolling these boards flagging down anyone saying something bad about Cirrus aircraft or their owners. However, it sure looks like there is an awful lot of bent Cirrus planes and needlessly dead occupants in the last few months and years. Something that needs to be looked at closer and not just bury our heads in the sand...

Mtweiss's picture

One more comment to address ATPMEI and Champ Pilot above making asinine comments intended to paint with one brush "all cirrus" pilots needing more training, Cirrus "Mafia" etc. Exactly what empirical evidence do you have? Most Cirrus owners and TAA owners are very independent and successful financially and thus we FLY our airplanes while others eschew the cost of gas, and we mostly have instrument ratings AND most of us are members of COPA and undergo voluntary advanced training. So except for the expensive plane being singlee out, it's just an airplane. There are lots of Cirri and other TAA aircraft crashes because there are LOTS of airplanes flying. Simple arithmetic. Don't attempt to define me as one of a group of people without the requisite training to fly my family safely in my airplane. It's offensive and ignorant. And if you want to match flying skills with me, then come up in my Piper J-3 Cub and if you can spin, loop or roll her better than me, then you can comment on my flying skills, deal?

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