Mark, you demonstrated just how insidious peer pressure is: "...I'm confident he would not have hesitated to swallow his pride and do the safe thing." :eek: Did you mean: "...I'm confident he would not have hesitated to do the safe thing, rightfully take great pride in doing so, and shame those on the frequency for tempting him." This "chickening out" mentality is very strong in all of us. It's a part of our motivation to be pilots. It's going to take strong mental images to counter. Safe flying! - Sam